What is reality?

(12/3/2019 "Reply to your forum post" -- Scientific Basis of Consciousness  group)

Ram,

That's a good question.  I guess I consider it (reality) as universe+theories+errors+incompletions+other_items/concerns/influences.  I'd say it includes more than just 'universe' and "originally" I think I started out  considering "both the physical and the 'mental' aspects of reality".  Later I think I realized that in seeing "reality as nested structured~duality, which includes physical and mental aspects", that I was pre-conditioned in the dominant western scientific paradigm to think in terms of the supposedly two categories: physical and mental... (or alternatives), but in the emerging more unified model, at the underlying principle level there is just the nested structured~duality  "supporting both".   Thus, reality is nested structured~duality. From there, or prior to, we acquire the "magnetic tetrahedral/polyhedral analog math" and that prompts for nested fields within nested fields and nested structural coding.

The pattern seems similar, to me, relating to the <'Chit-Padartha: Conscious-Matter'> in that if/when one  "looks inside" that, (according to me) it's the same thing -- more nested structured~duality.

...As a quick and dirty very general approximation.

Does that help or answer your question?  You do understand that anyone who re-defines reality is typically considered psychotic, don't you? 

How do you define 'reality',  Ram?

Best regards,

--Ralph

Re: Rise of Ayurveda

Scientific Basis of Consciousness   11/23/2019

Ram, others,  

When you describe (2) and reference "brain-based" and "neuroscience" terms, is the approximate "explanation" for why the self is said to die due to the Neuron Theory in that once the neurons rot away there cannot possibly be any  neural and synaptic activity and thus obvious end of self?

I raise this question/query sort of in light of the storyline I advocate where, in my model I have nested structural coding going on in stacks of ordered water forming internal representations of surroundings (and thus  self) forming in the energy-related aerobic respiration reaction.  This structural coding goes on within neurons and other cells and parallel with or perhaps cooperatively interactive  with the neural networking and other  structural coding. 

Upon the death, the structural coding of the stacks of ordered water, as in the (1) option could just continue on, let's say, going through various re-orderings in the similarly structured and coordinated surroundings and regenerative cycles.      If we are basically talking about continuations of particular natural structures or coordinations, then this sort of  model could  give some account for  both (1) and (2).

I suppose, to get technical, various psychic phenomena (astral travel, remote viewing, OOBE could work along a similar "structural" or resonance pathway.  The so-called "self" would be "in or related with ordered water structural coding"  and not so much with the neural activity, although locally, both are related.

Thoughts?

Best regards,

--Ralph

Subjectivity re-visited

Stanley, Whit, Ram, others,

First, I note Ram's condensation-sublimation is NSD-like -- roughly agreeing with "reality is nested structured~duality",  as does considering matter converting to energy. Thus, Ram's statement might better or also be or reflect:  matter is a condensed form of energy where the "two" states are changes in nested structured~duality.

Second, where you say, "Like there is nothing shocking  about brains producing language and ideas. The challenging part is how do brain produce qualia (subjectivity). ",  I don't think brains alone produce language and ideas, and so thinking that reality works that way sort of screws your chances of understanding subjectivity.

That is, in my storyline, the approximation is vibrations in surroundings influence structural coding in  ordered water and/or other sp^3-hybridized structures (or, if you are a neuron theory advocate, alignments in synapses...),  but within that, in getting to language that first involves influencing sequences of protein-folding CONCURRENT WITH moving gas streams through varying channels  as to get 'sounds'.  Those sounds add to the vibrations of the surroundings and additional internal structural coding (all relating to whether such activities aid or detract from energy and material collection and conservation "within respiration reaction".  Anyway,  during the language learning phase the brain and the surrounding gaseous environment and several other levels of organization are all involved in scribbling up to so-called  'language'.